Tuesday, October 13, 2009

New York Eagle Scout Suspended From School for 20 Days for Keeping Pocketknife in Car

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,565520,00.html

A 17-year-old Eagle Scout in upstate New York has been barred from
stepping foot on school grounds for 20 days — for keeping a 2-inch
pocketknife locked in a survival kit in his car.

Matthew Whalen, a senior at Lansingburgh Senior High School, says he
follows the Boy Scout motto and is always prepared, stocking his car
with a sleeping bag, water, a ready-to-eat meal — and the knife, which
was given to him by his grandfather, a police chief in a nearby town.

But Lansingburgh High has a zero-tolerance policy, and when school
officials discovered that Whalen kept his knife locked in his car, he
says, they suspended him for five days — and then tacked on an
additional 15 after a hearing.

Click here for video.

The incident is similar to the case of Zachary Christie, a 6-year-old
Cub Scout in Delaware who faces up to 45 days in his district's reform
school for bringing a scout utensil that can be used as a fork, spoon
and knife to school. But for Whalen — who has received an award from
the Boy Scouts of America for saving a life and completed 10 weeks of
basic military training last summer — the stakes are much higher:

He is concerned that the blot on his school record could kill his
dream of attending West Point.

In an interview with Foxnews.com, Whalen recalled the incident that
led to his suspension.

He said his school's assistant principal, Frank Macri, approached him
on Sept. 21 and asked him if he was carrying a knife.

"I was taken down to the office, and they told me that a student told
them that I was carrying a knife," Whalen said.

He said he told them "they could search me and everything, and they
said, 'There's no need for that.'"

Whalen said he doesn't know who might have said he was carrying a
knife, but he was open with school officials.

"And they said, 'Do you own a knife?' I said, 'Yes, I'm a soldier and
an Eagle Scout — I own a knife.'

"And they were like, 'Well, is it in your car or anything?' And I told
them, 'Yeah, it's in my car right now.'

"And they asked me to show it to them. I didn't realize it was going
to be a problem. I knew it wasn't illegal — my police chief
grandfather gave the knife to me."

Whalen said he took school administrators to his car because he
thought their fears would be allayed when they saw it was just a
2-inch knife.

"They thought I had a dagger in my car or something like that, so I
thought yeah, I'd show it to them," Whalen said.

"I showed it to them, and they told me I had a knife on school
property and had to be suspended."

But things didn't end there, Whalen said.

"They brought a cop in, who told them 'he's not breaking any laws, so
I can't charge him with anything.'"

Whalen said he asked Macri why a 2-inch pocketknife would be
considered more dangerous than other everyday items around the school.

"I said to him, 'What about a person who has a bat, on a baseball
team? That could be a weapon.' And he said, 'Well, it's not the same
thing.'"

The school district's policy lists "Possessing a weapon" under
"examples of violent conduct," which "may be subject to disciplinary
action, up to and including suspension from school."

School district officials did not reply to requests for comment.

Whalen says Macri gave him the longest suspension possible — five school days.

"They gave me the five-day suspension, because that is all a principal
can suspend a student for," he said. "And from there, they had a
superintendent hearing to see if the superintendent wanted to suspend
me for longer.

"But the superintendent wasn't even at the hearing. It was the
principal and the athletic director. The vice principal who originally
suspended me wasn't even there, and neither was the superintendent.
They basically asked me, 'Did you have the knife in your car?' And I
said 'Yes, I did.' The meeting was recorded and they told me they were
going to play the tape to the superintendent.

"They asked me if I wanted to say anything, and I told them all my
accomplishments and what I've done, and the principal even admitted
that I had no intent to use the knife, that I had no accessibility to
the knife."

But school officials decided to suspend Whalen for an extra 15 days
anyway, he said. And unless the decision is changed, he will not be
allowed on school grounds until Oct. 21.

Whalen said he does not know why the 15 days were added, but he said a
school district employee told him it was because the school wanted to
apply its policies consistently.

"I've been told by someone who works for the district that they had to
do it, because if someone else had a knife and they saw that I didn't
get a suspension, that it would look bad for the school."

School superintendent George Goodwin and Lansingburg Senior High
School Principal Angelina Bergin did not return calls for comment
Tuesday morning.

Whalen said he has no record of disciplinary problems.

"I think I have a detention from like 10th grade for being late or
something like that," he said.

He said the suspension has put his college dreams in jeopardy by
keeping him out of class, while making him still responsible for
assignments.

Though he is provided with a tutor for 90 minutes a day, he said,
"I've been suspended for something like a ninth of my school year, so
I'm falling behind drastically in my classes."

In addition to getting back to school as soon as possible, Whalen
wants the school to drop the incident from his transcript.

"My dream college would be West Point, and having a pock mark like
this on my record could be detrimental. They're looking for the best
of the best, and if someone didn't take the time to look through it
and examine the case, they would just say, 'hey, this guy had a weapon
on school property, and we don't want him at our college.'"

Whalen said that he has received support from the community during the
last few weeks.

"I've received tremendous communal support. Almost everyone I've
talked to has said they're behind me 100 percent, that it's ridiculous
that [the school has] done this me."

Whalen said he is not considering a lawsuit.

"I don't know what I could do, because technically ... I did break the
rules, and I'll accept that punishment," he said.

"Perhaps I should have been more aware of the rules. However, I'm more
upset about the additional 15 days.... That was entirely optional, and
they decided to go through with that."

First-grader faced reform school for carrying Cub Scout tool into school

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/33289924/ns/today-today_people/?GT1=43001

By Mike Celizic
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 11 minutes ago

Dressed in a button-down shirt and tie and speaking calmly and
articulately, first-grader Zachary Christie hardly looks or acts like
the sort of kid who should be spending 45 days in reform school. But,
thanks to a zero-tolerance policy, that's where Zachary's Delaware
school system wanted him to go after he made the mistake of taking his
favorite camping utensil to school.

However, a school board member said Tuesday that Zachary is likely to
get a reprieve. He said the board will likely amend the policy Tuesday
night and that any change would be retroactive to the beginning of the
school year. Board member John Mackenzie said that teachers and
administrators need the freedom to use their commonsense when it's
obvious that a child presents no danger.

'Can I have that?'
A Swiss Army-type combination of fork, spoon, bottle opener and knife,
the tool has been Zachary's favorite ever since he got it to take on
Cub Scout camping expeditions. "He eats dinner with it, breakfast and
everything else, so it never occurred to him that this would have been
something wrong to do," the 6-year-old's mother, Debbie Christie, told
TODAY's Meredith Vieira Tuesday from Newark, Del.

Zachary, an A student who sometimes wears a shirt and tie to school
just because he likes to, told Vieira he put the tool in his pocket on
Sept. 29 for a very simple reason: "To eat lunch with. I had
absolutely no idea this was going to happen. I wasn't thinking about
this. I was thinking about having lunch with it."

But when the tool fell out of his pocket on the bus and he walked off
the vehicle with it in his hand, a teacher intercepted him. "She said,
'Can I have that?' " Zachary recalled.

What Zachary didn't realize was that he had fallen afoul of the
Christina School District's zero-tolerance policy toward weapons in
school, one of many such policies implemented in the wake of such
incidents as the Columbine High School massacre. The policy does not
allow teachers or administrators to take into account intentions or
the character of the student; if a student has a knife, suspension and
subsequent assignment to the district's "alternative placement school"
— aka reform school — is mandatory.

Racial issue
Christina, which, according to its Web site, is the largest school
district in Delaware with some 17,000 students, made its policy
zero-tolerance because of concerns over racial discrimination. Studies
have shown in other districts that when school officials are given
discretion over such cases, African-American students are disciplined
at a disproportionately high rate.

TODAY
A combination fork, knife, spoon and bottle opener is Zachary
Christie's favorite utensil — but it got him in trouble at school.
"The idea was to avoid discriminating against any student and to treat
all students the same," George Evans, president of the Christina
school board, told NBC News.

While some experts favor such zero-tolerance policies, others question
their efficacy, saying there is no indication that they cut down on
violent incidents in schools. One of them, national school safety
consultant Kenneth Trump, told NBC News, "The school administrators
have to be able to administer consequences and still have some
discretion to fit the totality of the circumstances."

"The policy, of course, needs some additional flexibility," school
board member Mackenzie agreed Tuesday.

'Uh-oh'
Zachary had no idea that it was wrong to take his favorite camping
tool to class. When the teacher asked for it when he got off the bus,
he handed it over, unaware that he was already in serious trouble. He
went to class while his principal called his mother.

"She said that I needed to come to the school immediately; that
Zachary had brought a dangerous weapon into school, and I needed to
come and pick him up. He would be suspended for five days pending a
disciplinary action committee hearing. She said that he had a knife,"
Christie told Vieira.

TODAY
Zachary spoke to TODAY along with his mother, Debbie Christie, and her
fiance, Lee Irving.
When his mother arrived at the John R. Downes Elementary School with
her fiance, Lee Irving, Zachary was called from his first-grade
classroom to join them.

"When they called my name up, I was like, 'Uh-oh,' " he said.

Home school, not reform school
Zachary was suspended immediately for five school days. At the end of
the suspension, he and his mother appeared before the district's
disciplinary action committee, where his principal and others spoke up
for his good character. It didn't matter. The committee's hands were
tied. The rules said he had brought a knife to school and would have
to spend 45 days in the reform school.

Christie decided she would not send her son to that school. Instead,
she has been home schooling Zachary while waiting for an opportunity
to address the district's board of education, which was to meet
Tuesday night.

"I understand why they have it, but I don't agree with the
implementation of it," Christie said of the zero-tolerance policy. "I
think they need to look at the age, maturity, intent, situation; bring
in the teachers who know the child or the principal, and allow them to
make the first call in these situations," she said. "Looking at other
schools' codes of conduct in the Delaware Valley, their first step
would have been a suspension."

Christie assured Vieira that her son is well aware of the necessity of
not taking anything new to school without first asking and is not a
threat to anyone. She hopes the school board will agree with her.

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"I hope that they expunge his record and allow him to go back to
Downes immediately," she said of the board. "I think he has had an
over-excess of education on this issue. I'm hoping that out of all of
this the policy changes and that no other child is affected negatively
by what is supposed to keep them all safe."

Vieira asked Zachary if he's nervous about the prospect of eventually
returning to his school.

"I'm not very nervous," Zachary said. "I like being home-schooled.
It's happy in some ways; it's sad in some ways. Sometimes I'm strict,
and sometimes I can get into my serious mode. I can get into my happy
mode. It's just kind of fun being home-schooled, but I'm not scared to
go back."

And what has he learned from everything that's happened to him?

"To always ask before taking something new into school," he said.

The Associated Press contributed reporting to this story.

Cherilyn Eagar - Meet and Greet - Orem Utah

Event: Cherilyn Eagar - Meet and Greet - Orem Utah
What: Informational Meeting
Start Time: Tuesday, October 20 at 7:00pm
End Time: Tuesday, October 20 at 8:30pm
Where: at the home of Cathy Young

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Reid rips LDS Church's Prop. 8 support

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13546968

Washington » In a meeting with gay-rights activists last week, Senate
Majority Leader Harry Reid criticized the LDS Church for backing a
ballot measure banning same-sex marriage in California, saying the
leaders of his faith should have stayed out of the contentious
political fight.

Reid, a Democrat from Nevada, is the highest ranking elected official
who is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He
previously has not commented on the flood of Mormon money and
volunteers who helped propel Proposition 8 to victory in November.

But three organizers of the past weekend's National Equality March
said Reid brought up the topic during a conversation in his office.

"He said that he thought it was a waste of church resources and good
will," said Derek Washington, a Nevadan who worked as the outreach
director for the march. "He said he didn't think it was appropriate."

Reid spokesman Jon Summers would not discuss the private meeting, but
he didn't deny the conversation took place.

"While Senator Reid agrees with his church that marriage is between a
man and a woman," Summers said, "he also believes that the resources
that went into the Proposition 8 effort could have been put to better
use."

LDS Church officials declined to comment Monday. But Frank Schubert,
campaign manager for the pro-Prop 8 movement, said: "All churches have
not only the opportunity to speak out
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on important public issues, but really a moral obligation to do so."

The Mormon Church, headquartered in Salt Lake City, repeatedly has
fought attempts to legalize same-sex marriages. California's Prop 8
was no different. Church leaders announced their support in a letter
that was read during Sunday services in meetinghouses throughout the
Golden State. LDS officials called for financial donations and
volunteers. Members of the church did not disappoint.

More than 1,000 Utahns contributed either individually or through a
business to the Prop 8 fight, giving $3.8 million. More than 70
percent of that cash went to groups backing the gay-marriage ban. Utah
ranked second only to California in the amount given to the ballot
battle.

The LDS Church kicked in nearly $190,000 in in-kind contributions to
ProtectMarriage.com, the leading pro-Prop. 8 group. In the end, Prop 8
passed with 52 percent of the vote.

Marchers in Sunday's equality rally, which drew tens of thousands to
the U.S. Capitol, repeatedly referenced the Prop 8 defeat in signs,
statements and even face paint. But when organizers sat down with
Reid, it wasn't a topic they intended to raise. They wanted to thank
him for supporting the march and push him on their desire for federal
action giving gay Americans the ability to get married, serve openly
in the military and fight workplace discrimination.

Reid signed a letter supporting the march and encouraged a sustained
lobbying campaign.

In the meeting, those present touched on issues most important to
them. Dan Choi, a veteran of the Iraq War, who was booted from the
military under the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy, thanked Reid for
lobbying President Barack Obama on his behalf. Robin McGehee, of
California, talked about her own family. Then, McGehee said, Reid
brought up his LDS faith and discussed a recent meeting with Mormons
in which he criticized the Prop 8 efforts.

"He personally said they needed to be focused on other things," she
said, "and he felt it was harmful for the church to focus on such a
divisive issue."

mcanham@sltrib.com

Dems scramble after warning from health insurers

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091012/D9B9QLO81.html

By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

(AP) Senate Finance Committee member Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine talks
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Insurance companies aren't playing nice any more.
Their dire message that health care legislation will drive up premiums
for people who already have coverage comes as a warning shot at a
crucial point in the debate, and threatens President Barack Obama's
top domestic priority.

Democrats and their allies scrambled on Monday to knock down a new
industry-funded study forecasting that Senate legislation, over time,
will add thousands of dollars to the cost of a typical policy.
"Distorted and flawed," said White House spokeswoman Linda Douglass.
"Fundamentally dishonest," said AARP's senior policy strategist, John
Rother. "A hatchet job," said a spokesman for Senate Finance Committee
chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont.

But the health insurance industry's top lobbyist in Washington stood
her ground. In a call with reporters, Karen Ignagni, president of
America's Health Insurance Plans, pointedly refused to rule out attack
ads on TV featuring the study, though she said she believed the
industry's concerns could be amicably addressed.

At the heart of the industry's complaint is a decision by lawmakers to
weaken the requirement that millions more Americans get coverage.
Since the legislation would ban insurance companies from denying
coverage on account of poor health, many people will wait to sign up
until they get sick, the industry says. And that will drive up costs
for everybody else.

(AP) Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., left, talks with Senate Finance Committee
member Kent Conrad, D-N.D. as...
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Insurers are now raising possibilities such as higher premiums for
people who postpone getting coverage, or waiting periods for those who
ignore a proposed government requirement to get insurance and later
have a change of heart.

The drama threatened to overshadow Tuesday's scheduled vote by the
Senate Finance Committee on a 10-year, $829-billion plan that Baucus
has touted as the sensible solution to America's problems of high
medical costs and too many uninsured.

The Baucus bill is still expected to win Finance Committee approval.
The insurance industry is trying to influence what happens beyond the
vote, when legislation goes to the floor of the House and Senate, and,
if passed, to a conference committee that would reconcile differences
in the bills.

It's at that final stage where many expect the real deal will be cut.

"We've got ourselves a real health care shooting war now," said Robert
Laszewski, a former health insurance executive turned consultant. "The
industry has come to the conclusion that the way things are going in
Congress, we'll have a ... formula that will be disastrous for their
business, so they can't stand on the sidelines any longer."

(AP) Senate Finance Committee member Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., left,
followed by Judiciary Committee...
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Questions about the technical soundness of the industry analysis by
the PricewaterhouseCoopers firm was a big part of the discussion
Monday. The release of the study late Sunday on the eve of the federal
Columbus Day holiday had Democrats crying foul.

"The misleading and harmful claims made by the profit-driven insurance
companies are politicking for corporate gain at its worst," said Sen.
Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va.

Democrats have reason to worry. Insurance industry opposition helped
sink President Bill Clinton's health care plan in the 1990s by fanning
fears that people with coverage would wind up paying more.

Ignagni was unequivocal in her support for the PricewaterhouseCoopers
conclusions. The company is "a world-class firm" with "a stellar
reputation," she said.

The study projects that the legislation would add $1,700 a year to the
cost of family coverage in 2013, when most of the major provisions of
the Baucus bill would be in effect.

(AP) In this Oct. 1, 2009 file photo, Senate Finance Committee
Chairman Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont....
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Premiums for a single person would go up by $600 more than would be
the case without the legislation, it estimated.

In 10 years' time, premiums would be $4,000 higher for a family plan,
and $1,500 more for individual coverage.

Finance Committee aides to Baucus said it's impossible to predict
premiums down to the dollar because there are too many variables
involved.

The technical issues behind the study are complex, and it will take
time for neutral experts to deliver a final judgment. The issue boils
down to questions of coverage and cost shifting.

The industry is arguing that the consequences of the bill will be
shifted onto those who are already covered. Insurers are not alone.
Representatives of the hospital industry have raised similar concerns,
though in less stark terms.

(AP) In this Oct. 5, 2009, file photo President Barack Obama shakes
hands with doctors after...
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The study finds fault with what Baucus sees as one of the crowning
achievements of his bill. Even with a tight budget, it would cover an
estimated 94 percent of eligible Americans, up from about 83 percent
now. The study - and the insurance industry - say that's not enough,
particularly since senators have weakened the stiff fines Baucus
originally proposed for ignoring a requirement to get coverage.

"You really have to have a coverage level in the high 90s to make this
work," Ignagni said.

The PricewaterhouseCoopers study also assumes that proposed taxes on
high-cost insurance, new levies on insurers and other health industry
firms, and Medicare cuts will be directly passed on to privately
insured policyholders.

Critics of the study said it tilted those assumptions too far toward a
worst case, ignoring the bill's potential to curb costs.

For example, the tax on high-cost health insurance that Baucus is
proposing could lead employers and individuals to switch to lower-cost
plans and avoid the levy. If that happens, there would be no
additional costs to pass on to consumers.

The study "assumed the tax would have no behavioral effect, contrary
to every other tax in the history of civilization," said economist Len
Nichols of the nonpartisan New America Foundation.

Critics also said the study doesn't take into account proposed
insurance exchanges, a new marketplace that would be designed to
foster competition and presumably drive premiums down.

There's equally strong debate about the effects of $400 billion in
proposed cuts in Medicare payments to insurers, hospitals and other
service providers. The study assumes those costs would be shifted to
people with private insurance, but the bill's supporters say the
reductions are aimed at reducing wasteful spending that drives up
costs.

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Associated Press Writer Erica Werner contributed to this report.

Saturday, October 10, 2009

In-Depth Study of Constitution Class

Announcing a new Meetup for Utah County We Surround Them Meetup!

What: In-Depth Study of Constitution Class

When: October 13, 2009 7:00 PM

Where:
Ivy Hall Academy
1598 W 820 N
Provo, UT 84604

Gary and Carolyn Adler are teaching a class on the Constitution of the United States.

Here is there message,

"We have had many scratch-the-surface classes. We want to empower people to be the patriots and statesmen our Founders intended and our country needs now.

We are scheduled to teach at Ivy Hall Academy 1598 W. 820 N. Provo on Tues. Oct. 13th at 7:00 PM."

Learn more here:
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Thom Hartmann debates economist John Lott

Thom is a host on Air America so we have spirited, though civil, discussions.



It’s a bit depressing to listen to this discussion. First off, this new federal endeavor is totally unconstitutional. It should be left to the states. It’s none of the federal government business under our constitution. If one likes so much government health care, move to Massachusetts or Oregon (good luck finding a job), but don’t try to expend something that hasn’t worked successfully in any state to all states. It’s just absurd. "Oh but it works in France." Who says, the WHO? How many people fly to France to get life saving treatment? Only Arafat, and he died there. Secondly, this argument that things will get cheaper by cutting profits off the system is classic third world stuff. The Soviet Union striped the profit motive from the entire economy, how did that work? Do we need to relive such experiments even with individual industries? How can anyone sane at this point childish argument. There is a mountain of evidence the size of the Everest to show that that’s not the case at all. And this argument can be used to get the federal government involved in everything: Mortgage industry, student loans, auto manufacturing. Well never mind. But all I ask of people goes back to the first point: Leave it to the states. We shouldn’t be having "a national debate on healthcare". Such central planning is un-American. Despite its problems our system is the best in the world precisely because we don’t have the level of government involvement that other nations have. It’s not because Americans are brighter--it's because the founders limited the U.S. federal government. The more the federal government gets involved in health care, the worse it will get. Go visit any federal facility: a federal court, a federal immigration building, a federal hospital. Take a look at the offices, the ceilings, the floors, the waiting line. It’s not good. Keep at the state level, and if you want it so much, move to a state that has it. Leave the rest of us alone